DEBATE: STOP BLAMING THE WEST!
This debate was about the MDC Statement applauding Pres Zuma’s Statement refer:
http://dearprestsvangirai.blogspot.com/2009/08/mdc-applauds-president-zumas-statement.html
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From : "G. Gadzirayi Nyambuya"(gadzirai@gmail.com)
This is all a pile of rubbish, how can a racist government be better? On no yard stick does your statement register an significant figure.
PM Tsvangirai is the worst thing to happen to Africa, cry Africa, why do you bring forth such! I respect your opinion brother, but I will need only the most high God to convience me Tsavangirai is anything good!
How do you cooperate with the oppressors of the world so as to keep inplace their oppressive system. They hero Mandela today like they never zeroed him as a terrorist. Do you think they did not know of the heneous crimes against human that where being commited by then the government of RSA. WAKE UP BROTHER!
Golden.
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comrade kundayi (africanlion_1@hotmail.com) wrote
(I apologise to those that did not want this mail)
Surely the issue is who is actually in the game and what do they contribute? Unfortunately Zimbabwe has many potential contributors who choose instead to be bystanders.
These ideas will remain theories because we are talking about thoughts without the means of implementation. Zanu steals national wealth ZIDERA provides MDC with money both waste these resources on personal gains for party chefs.
We idle by watching a circus of idiot incompetent players in a game that they and we are all equally at fault and ineffective in restoring the nation,
However the politicians and their puppet masters are ALL very effective regarding positioning themselves to SERVE HIDDEN AGENDAS of grabbing Zimbabwes resources and claiming eternal status at Zimbabwes expense.
Some say blame the Zanu only others say blame the West.
Why be partisan when all of them just serve themselves and their hangers on.
Zanu is to blame as they have overturned the idea of government of, for, and by the people reducing the concept to a narrow minded murderous patronage system for exclusive members.
The West is to blame in that the means of countering the Zanu hegemony is a total failure that they continue to push as 'the only game in town'. Who doesnt know that it was Bush policy seeking to create an ORANGE revolution in Zimbabwe? Its all on written record.
WHEREBY economic pressures was to make the people revolt and place their proxy MDC into power. MDC failed to mobilize people properly or ally with civil society choosing rhetoric and Wabenzis instead. Some say falsely WE DONT WANT CIVIL WAR ...this is a statement of personal cowardice when uttered by many and ignorance of such complex matters at the stage of implementation when uttered by others. Civil war already exists.
Zanu has been waging a low intensity civil war for years, those hundreds killed in June were murdered by 'soldiers' and paramilitaries not civilians there has been NOTHING peaceful about the MDC quest for power....it has killed and displaced thousands via means other than bullets it was premised upon national destruction and making the peoople suffer .....so they overthrew Zanu it backfired because it was poorly organized and people in their millions chose flight out of the country to redress the economic pressure instead of fight...There GNU isnt failing it has failed...It was justified by MDC as 1) to save lives, when there so called 'non-violent' regime change was based upon revolt due to suffering...2) it was to change things from within Zanu currently is dismantling MDC and MDC can only counter beyond crying for Zuma or singing praise for Mugabe or rhetoric that 'change is inevitable'.
Experience not withstanding who doesnt know that Zanu is propped up by military force and only an organised counter force 'civil action' or other will bring them to the table in any sincere way?.
ALL Western nations and Eastern nations are based upon important nation saving conflicts civil strife or military action no one accuses the people that opposed Hitler of being worse than the tyranny they ended. No one states those that defeated POL POT or who overthrew the dictator of Romania of being fake merely because they chose to bring change through confronting the tyrants. Only in Africa do we extend the lives of our many tyrants with fake passivity because we ignore the contributions of those who fought for causes with genuine ideals and forget that foreign powers impose their proxies to divert our struggles towards their interests.
The point at issue is many unsung freedom fighters were killed for an ideal stolen by Zanu thieves, many Zimbabweans have been murdered and have suffered following an proxy MDC freedom is coming with no plans bandwagon that is just using them to fulfil outside foreign agendas. The wholle rotten mess needs to be re-evaluated so the country is freed and governed by those wishing to serve Zimbabwe not by fake liberators or fake democrats.
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Muzi Ncube (muzi@tmo.blackberry.net) wrote:
Golden! Tswangirai is the best thing that has happened for Zimbabwe. Even when we fought against Ian Smiths Regime which by the way was a better oppressive govt than our current Mugabe govt. We did not topple Smith by ourselves, we had the Int'l community help us out either by training soldiers or giving us refuge etc etc. So for you to come out and criticise Tswangirai for invoking the Int'l community to help with the Zim situation is VERY IMMATURE. Mugabe needs more than Tswangirai to be toppled out of power for reasons we've all seen in his 29 yrs in power. You tell us if u think it makes sense for Mugabe to Preside for 29 yrs straight.
Truly
Zobha Da Best
USA Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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From Muzu Ncube (muzi@tmo.blackberry.net)
Golden! During the racist Smith regime we did not go to neighboring countries to buy groceries and basic commodities ok. Yo Mugabe has defeated what he fought Ian Smith for in EVERY WAY and worse enough he's Black African. Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
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Bongani Masuku (bongani@cosatu.org.za) says:
I do not know how I got to this list. Anyway, now that am here and happened to have eye contact with the issues herein, I am just checking my understanding of issues.
I hope from these discussions, am not getting the impression that colonialism never happened and it has no role in the present global economic inequalities. I hope am not also getting the impression that the ruthless plunder of Africa by the mighty west is not linked to the ruthless elites who are looting our economies in full collaboration with their western masters and patrons. In other words, I hope my understanding of the character of imperialism as a global accumulation system which relies on the raw material, cheap labour and unfair access to markets of poor countries for its advantaged position in the global chain of capital accumulation, wherein a few elites 9corrupt and despotic in poor countries) benefit from this exploitative chain, thus acting together with and in the interests of their masters against the poor and suffering masses. They also spread the illusion that with more markets, more integration into the unequal global economy controlled by a few monopolies and with more net transfer of raw material to the north, poor countries will one day be some America of some sort, with skyrocketing buildings and highways.
In conclusion, am I generalising when I say that it is a fact that both imperialism and corrupt elites are responsible for Africa’s position while the masses are the worst victims of this ruthless collaboration. Poor me, please correct me dear comrades before I wrong any further. In this sense, am an apologist of neither!
Just checking thy view!
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George Ayittey (ayittey@american.edu)
Sir,
What did you say when the Queen of England made Mugabe an honorary knight in 1994?What did you say when the World Bank declared Zimbabwe as an “economic success story” in 1994?
Did you reject the BILLIONS in World Bank loans and Western aid that were pouring into Zimbabwe in the early 1990s?Now suddenly the West is to blame for Zimbabwe’s problems?
You are acting like a toddler, who must be given a candy after cleaning up his room. But when he messes up his room and the candy is withdrawn, he throws a temper tantrum. Asked why his room is a mess, he replies, “Because I got no candy.”
“Toddler” because his focus is on the candy. He has not grown up and developed sufficient intelligence, mental capacity or maturity to focus on the STATE of his room.
Please focus on the STATE of Zimbabwe, not whether or not you must have candy from the East, West or Jupiter. If you don’t see the appalling state the country is in and you must instead rail against the West for not giving you a candy, then I am afraid, you are part of the problem.
George Ayittey,
Washiington, DC
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kuthula matshazi (kuthulamatshazi@yahoo.co.uk) wrote:
Thanks Ben. That's what I suspected you would say...the neo-classical economics kind of solution that has undermined Mozambique, SA, Tanzania, Malawi, Zambia, the list is endless. Your analysis falls short of political elements. Second, you assume that private investment in Zimbabwe can absorb the 60% people not currently employed (being conservative). No. There has never been private sector investment in Africa that has managed to do that. SA is retrenching. All other countries are retrenching in order to maximize on labour and production process "efficiencies". We must not confuse rise in GDP growth with (which is just that ...an increase in output) with people benefitting.
Even if people are absorbed, say the 60% and we have full employment, what kind of sustainable development can we maintain with low wages? For instance, people say the situation in Zimbabwe has improved now, but teachers get US$170 which is about a quarter of the monthly basic cost of living. As productivity costs rise and wages remain stagnant or even drag behind the cost of living, people are going to be poorer and government will have to look after the working people. Foreign investors bring means to produce for their external markets and exploit low wages, lax environmental regulations (read Larry Summers's shocking waste dumping thesis pronounced as comparative advantage http://www.counterpunch.org/summers.html
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kuthula matshazi (kuthulamatshazi@yahoo.co.uk) wrote:
Bongani, yes there is absolute denial - silent denial - of the colonial and imperialism legacies. You rightly outline that the imperialist and corrupt local elites connive to make Africa poor (and other developing countries). These relationships are rationalised by men in suits and usually very well educated. They cheat ordinary people through high sounding ideas in order to perpetuate their source of living!
President Mbeki said they turn normalcy upside down!
Best, Kuthula Matshazi
Visit my Blog at http://kuthula.blogspot.com
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MDC applauds President Zuma’s statement!!!
The MDC applauds today’s statement by the SADC chairman and South African President Jacob Zuma which made it clear that all parties forming the inclusive government should be committed to fulfilling the letter and spirit of the Global Political Agreement.
The statement by the SADC chairman is refreshing. President Zuma has made an unequivocal statement that African nations should commit themselves to human rights, good governance and democracy if our continent is to extricate itself from the bad-boy image.
We in the MDC have always been consistent in our commitment to fulfilling the GPA, to which we all appended our signatures. Our commitment as a tripartite government to what we have agreed between ourselves will have a domino effect that will unlock the much needed foreign aid and investment that are necessary to kick-start our economy. This is what all progressive forces have been saying; that we must not renege on agreed positions and that we should abide by the dictates and the full meaning of our signature on the GPA. We must urgently resolve the outstanding issues such as the issue of provincial governors, permanent secretaries, ambassadors, the issue of Attorney General Johannes Tomana, central bank governor Gideon Gono and the swearing in of deputy minister designate, Hon Roy Bennett.
We in the MDC agree with President Zuma that our unbridled commitment to good governance and democratic reforms will show the world that we are ready to move forward and that implementation of the GPA is not a mirage but a political reality that will give our nation a chance to start afresh so that we give hope and confidence to our people, to Africa and the broader international community. We agree with President Zuma that implementing the GPA is the panacea to the rest of the attendant problems dogging the inclusive government
The MDC is a party of excellence. We believe in the truth; in forthright statements that make it imperative for our country to begin anew; to chart a new way driven by basic democratic tenets of respect for human rights, good governance and simply abiding by the dictates of documents and agreements we have signed with neither pressure nor coercion. We must all simply abide by the GPA and agree to resolve the outstanding issues so that the inclusive government can begin to bring full confidence, hope and prosperity to the people of Zimbabwe.
We hope that SADC and the AU will take it upon themselves to make sure that all the parties fully implement the GPA so that “African solutions to African problems” is not simply a slogan, but a value that we all hold and cherish. We also hope that the SADC review of the GPA in the next few weeks will reflect and correct some of the problems dogging the full implementation of the political agreement.
Together to the end, marching to a new Zimbabwe.
PLEASE KINDLY VISIT THE HEATED DEBATES AT http://dearprestsvangirai.blogspot.com/2009/10/debate-on-mdc-statement-dont-blame-west.html
DEAR PRES M R TSVANGIRAI from F JASI
Dear Prime Minister
On the eve of the past two presidential elections, the military and security generals publicly vowed never to salute you even if you won the poll. Yet on Tuesday, in a packed stadium to mark Defence Forces Day, you finally got the salute from these generals. Of course you would have eventually been saluted by either them or their successors. Anyone could have predicted that soon or later there was no other way to go for them besides doing what any sane military leader in a democratic state is expected to do which is to salute the democratically elected Prime Minister or President of the country. We were not at all surprised when finally the generals got to do what is right in the eyes of God, the people of Zimbabwe, and the law. And by saluting you they acknowledged that military and security institutions should be immune from party politics. These institutions belong to the state that is the people of Zimbabwe and not ZanuPF nor the MDC.
But you know what really surprised us? The conditions under which you are said to have finally achieved that. Sir, if what is said by the private and international media is anything to go by then we the Zimbabwean people need divine intervention. How can you let a mere salute blind you that much? Even if they were never going to salute you, you were still going to remain the Prime Minister of Zimbabwe. A salute says more about the person saluting than the person being saluted. Saluting means one knows and respects the laws of the country, its hierarchies, and one’s place in a given hierarchy. But of course in Zimbabwe (or Africa in general) we have massively exaggerated personal egos leading to abuse of office and power.
As we see it, the salute is your prize for turning a blind eye to the generals’ professional conduct, or lack of it. If that be case then the change you promised remains just a dream.
If the salute means that the plans to reform the defence and police forces may be reversed then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means that the proposed overhaul by a board with independent and qualified members to be appointed to help bring professionalism and sanity to our forces is abandoned then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means none of the generals are held accountable for the abuse of power that saw many innocent Zimbabweans arrested, tortured, maimed, and killed then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means plans to ensure the forces serve the interests of the nation rather than those of political parties are discarded then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means justice for victims of last year's election-related violence will never be realised then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means that names of senior police and army officials responsible for the death of more than 200 MDC supporters are never revealed then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means past crimes by police and army officials are ignored and the culprits left free to continue abuse of office then we say NO to the salute. If the salute means that the Government turns a blind eye to Gono’s and Thomana’s sins present and past are forgiven and they remain in office then we say NO to the salute.
Sir, what you or your advisors might be failing to see is the fact that unless there is a complete overhaul of the country’s military and security leadership innocent people will continue to be abused and suffer. The starting point of restring law and order in Zimbabwe is by changing the heads at the military, security, and justice establishments. In the same way, if the Reserve Bank Governor’s and the Attorney General’s offices continue to be occupied by elements deeply tied to ZanuPF then real change is still a long way off. For that reason we feel you should not allow a mere salute ruin your vision. You can manage without the salute. Real change is what Zimbabwe need. And the best way to go about achieving that is not through tolerating misguided elements at the helm of the countries military, security, justice, and financial institutions. Please don’t let the salute fool you. These guys are dangerous and they need to be stopped before the country can start moving in the right direction. Please don’t become part of the rotten and corrupt leadership that has ruined the once beautiful Republic of Zimbabwe.
Fanuel Jasi. (UK).
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US embassy accident story not convincing!!!
THE US embassy in Harare yesterday issued a statement entitled, "Clarification of Accident Vehicle Ownership". We published it in full.
A close look at the statement leaves more questions than answers.
Many people were looking for a statement that said who exactly owned the accident truck that killed Mrs Susan Tsvangirai, the Prime Minister's wife.
It is certainly not enough, or convincing to say: "It (the truck) was purchased with USAID funds by a contractor and belonged to the contractor" without actually saying who that contractor was. I am sure US embassy officials would know who that contractor is (was) since it was purchased using USAID funds.
Interestingly, the truck's number plate, 81 TCE-128, belongs to the US embassy.
Independent legislator Jonathan Moyo was quoted as saying: “How can an American-registered car, purchased with American money, driven by a driver hired from Britain and paid with American money; be owned by a British agency funded by British money and formed from the ashes of a British colonial institution?”
The connection between USAID and United Kingdom's Department for International Development (DfID) in this case is troubling; given that the shooting of Air Marshall Perence Shiri a few months ago involved a USAID employee. This is a strange coincidence.
The US embassy says: "The contractor was delivering essential HIV and AIDS drugs and medical supplies to health clinics under an effort co-financed by USAID and the United Kingdom Department for International Development (DfID)." Surely if it was co-financed by these two organisations, they should be able to give us more details.
Does the U.S. embassy or DfID care to tell us who the contractor was? Was it DfID? If not, who was it? And why did the UK government quickly issue a statement saying the driver was not "sleeping at the wheel" at the time of the accident? How could they know that a few hours after an accident that occured thousands of miles away, in a remote location in Zimbabwe? How come they were privy to this information when the investigating authorities in Zimbabwe were still investigating the cause of the crash?
The US embassy also says: "The driver of the truck, a Zimbabwean national, was an employee of the contractor, not a USAID employee." The embassy seems to have some insider information that we do not know. Again, who is the contractor?
I was also troubled to hear the UK's DfID declare the accident genuine, just hours after the accident. This is the first time that the UK has commented on a tragic Zimbabwean situation and not connected "President Mugabe's regime" to it. How do they know this, or should I say "How did they know this was a 'genuine' accident?" The UK Government's subsequent lack of interest in that incident is also puzzling, to say the least.
The US embassy in Harare's statement is very cleverly presented and packaged. It starts with condolencies to Prime Minister Tsvangirai's family for the death of his wife Susan. It then ends with the U.S. government's food aid pledge.
The statement read: "The U.S. government remains committed to helping the people of Zimbabwe as it has done for decades. The United States provided over $260 million for emergency programs since October 2007, providing food, health care, safe water, and HIV/AIDS prevention, care and treatment."
This is very clever packaging. The "clarification of the accident vehicle story" is sandwiched between a condolence statement and a story about the U.S.'s aid program to Zimbabwe -- two importanst stories deserving their own titling.
This clever 'public diplomacy' diverts attention from the main story, as suggested by the title of the statement. Clever indeed, but many of us think this 'explanation' is very skeletal and the US embassy can, and should, give a more detailed explanation. They could start by naming the 'contractor'.
This statement leaves more questions than answers.
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Philip Murombedzi
philipmurombedzi@yahoo.com
SOURCE!!!
PROOF THAT MR MORGAN TSVANGIRAI IS INDEED THE EXECUTIVE PRESIDENT OF ZIMBABWE!!!
http://www.thecitizen.co.za/index/News/672523.page
Published: 4/29/2008 07:39:50
Zim polls: ‘Here is the proof that we won’
CEDRIC MBOYISA
JOHANNESBURG - The Movement for Democratic Change (MDC) has provided The Citizen with statistical evidence to back up its claim of being the outright winner in the Zimbabwean presidential election.
The data indicate that a run-off election will not be necessary, as MDC leader Morgan Tsvangirai obtained the prerequisite margin to be declared a “hands-down” victor.
The results put Tsvangirai in pole position with 51.7%, while President Robert Mugabe lags behind with 43.3%.
Here is the MDC versus Zanu-PF presidential race vote allocation breakdown in the country’s 10 “provinces”:
* Tsvangirai (49 660) vs Mugabe (11 146) in Bulawayo.
* Tsvangirai (227 387) vs Mugabe (60 523) in Harare.
* Tsvangirai (212 553) vs Mugabe (131 856) in Manicaland.
* Tsvangirai (78 650) vs Mugabe (150 889) in Mashonaland Central.
* Tsvangirai (130 753) vs Mugabe (156 746) in Mashonaland East.
* Tsvangirai (126 832) vs Mugabe (134 329) in Mashonaland West.
* Tsvangirai (164 345) vs Mugabe (152 327) in Masvingo.
* Tsvangirai (68 656) vs Mugabe (39 143) in Matebeleland North.
* Tsvangirai (34 437) vs Mugabe (44 995) in Matebeleland South.
* Tsvangirai (155 122) vs Mugabe (162 338) in Midlands.
In total Tsvangirai and Mugabe amassed 1 248 395 and 1 044 292 votes respectively.
The total number of votes, including those of other candidates, is said to be 2 413 830.
“The Harare and Bulawayo figures were taken from the agreed and declared ZEC (Zimbabwe Electoral Commission) figures. The agents have already signed for the two sets of the results,” the MDC revealed.
The party added: “All other figures were secured from our polling agents from different stations across the country.”
cedricm@citizen.co.za.
DEBATE ARISING FROM THE ARTICLE: EDDIE CROSS PLEASE EXPLAIN THE ACCIDENT FURTHER!"
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Eddie Cross please explain the accident further?
I AM still puzzled and perplexed by Eddie Cross's narration of the events of the crash that killed Mrs Susan Tsvangirai and left the Prime Minister badly hurt.
Cross made the headlines in the last few months over his "crash and burn" article; but that is not the gist of this piece.
He told the New York Times newspaper a day after the crash that it had not been an accident, and said the MDC-T party will not accept a police report. Besides being preposterous, Cross sounded like he had some insider information about the accident. I will not ask questions as to why the New York Times newspaper had an interview with Cross, and not the party spokesman, Nelson Chamisa. This is a matter between Cross and that newspaper.
However, I am yet to hear of someone who gets to the scene of the accident from 10 kilometres away, before the police, and climbs the top of the accident vehicle to take pictures, before attempting to rescue the victims. This is what Mr Deon Theron, the Deputy President of the Commercial Farmers' Union, did on that fateful day.
He examined the vehicle; but did not "rescue" the victims -- the high profile victims. It is worrisome that it was more important for Mr Theron to take footage, rather than try and rescue the victims.
We know that Mrs Tsvangirai was badly hurt at that juncture, and so was the Prime Minister. Why did Mr Theron not attend to them? Surely that would have been the reason why he rushed to the site? Or was it? If not, does this say something about the judgment of Mr Theron, or his attitude to "accident victims"?
It is also shocking to discover that Cross had more specific details about the "burst front tyre", the "loose under-carriage as a result of the accident", and other accident details; but no information on the state of the victims, Mr and Mrs Tsvangirai, when he spoke to the New York Times. Anyone who has had an opportunity to visit an accident site immediately after the accident would tell you that the state of the vehicle is never on their mind -- the condition of the victim(s) is. But not Mr Theron who preferred to climb the overturned vehicle and take pictures.
Was Mr Theron not at least concerned that an overturned vehicle could burst into flames and kill him, or the victims? I am sure Mr Theron would have seen the Prime Minister or his wife lying down somewhere, or would have at least known that the inhabitants of the car were the Tsvangirai's as he had previously communicated with whoever informed him about the accident (see below). Why then was he less concerned about the welfare of the Prime Minister and his wife, and more concerned about "the scene of the accident"?
Mr Theron's version of the accident, which is disputed by other eyewitnesses, could not have been accurate. Dennis Murira, director of public affairs in the prime minister’s office was told a different version of events. The truck driver told the police that he had fallen asleep at the wheel, said Murira. So why would Mr Cross deny a police report?
Mr Theron was 10 kilometres away when the accident happened? The eyewitnesses, surely would have had a more accurate version as they were there when the crash occured. Why did Mr Cross then rely on Mr Theron's version when he was not an eyewitness? How long did it take Mr Theron to get to the scene after the accident?
The New York Times report says Mr Hendrick O'Neill, an MDC-T member "from the area where the crash occured" was suspicious of the "circumstances around the accident". Mr O'Neill is the one who, apparently, called Mr Theron "who lives near the scene" and told him about the accident. So both men are from the same area - where the accident happened? Why then did Mr O'Neill ring Mr Theron when he was from the same area? How did Mr O'Neill know about the accident? Was he an eyewitness? How did he know about it before Mr Theron "who lives near the scene"? How many kilomteres from the scene does Mr O'Neill live, as compared to Mr Theron? Why was it important to call Mr Theron and not the police, or for him to get to the accident scene promptly?
“I was looking for someone to get to the site because I was very suspicious about the circumstances around the accident,” the New York Time quotes Mr O’Neill telling Mr Cross. What were those "circumstances" at this stage - soon after the crash? How long was it after the accident did Mr O'Neill know about it or "the circumstances"? He would have had to be on the scene to be "suspicious about the circumstances around the accident" or somebody else would have told him on the phone. If somebody did, who was it?
"So he contacted Deon Theron, the vice president of the Commercial Farmers Union (CFU), who lives near the scene. 'Morgan has been a target for some time'," the New York Times quotes Mr Cross.
Why would he (Mr O'Neill) contact Mr Theron when he also lives near the scene? He could have gone there himself and "collected the evidence". Did it need a farmer - a CFU Vice President? What exactly was Mr Theron required to do in these circumstances, that Mr O'Neill could not do? Afterall he was the first one to know about the accident, and he lived "in that area" anyway. In any case, one would have thought the prime concern was to rescue Mr Tsvangirai (and his wife) as he "has been a target for some time".
Surely, there was a lapse of time, from the time when Mr O'Neill saw, or heard about, the accident to the time he communicated with Mr Theron. How long was that time? How long did it take Mr Theron to get to the scene "10 kilometres" away? Did Mr O'Neill also ring the police? If not, why not? Did Mr O'Neill eventually attend the scene as he was "suspicious about the circumstances around the accident"? If not, why not?
We hope someone will care to answer these questions, among other questions already in the public domain. This is important so that we avoid another "crash and burn".
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Philip Murombedzi (philipmurombedzi@yahoo.com)
SOURCE
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REMARKS FROM READERS:
Dear Philip,
On 19th March 2009, the Zimbabwe Independent published an article by Dumisani Muleya entitled “Zimbabwe: Investigators to Probe Susan Tsvangirai’s Death” in which he indicated that cabinet had agreed to allow an independent international investigation in the death of the Prime Minister’s wife.
http://www.thezimbabweindependent.com/index.php/local/22246-investigators-to-probe-susan-tsvangirais-death
In light of this, I believe that it is prudent to wait for the investigation to be carried out so that we get the facts on what transpired on that fateful day.
Let us be patient. The truth will be known soon enough.
MAJURU FARAI DOUGLAS! (fmu@cde.int)
March 26, 2009 8:26 AM
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HI TO YOU ALL!
Anyone has the right in the world to say what they know. It may even help the investigators.
Keep it up vaMurombedzi!
Ref: http://dearprestsvangirai.blogspot.com/2009/03/eddie-cross-please-explain-accident.html
God bless.
Then my own blood brother Mutumwa, please give me time to respond. I've been advised to seek legal guidance when dealing with advanced economic mercenaries like yourself!
Cool!
M S Hove...Rev. THE RADICAL ONE!!!
Road accidents involving MDC leaders, just too convenient to be coincidental!!!
Tambanavo Chamanyawi (chamanyawi@gmail.com)
Nyoka tavanadzo mumba. Hombe! (We are sharing a home with huge snakes now). Not only ordinary snakes, but double headed ones with tails. The late but popular blind singer Paul Matavire, once said in one of his songs, “Munyika muno mune munemapere akasimira nheve dzehwayi, kurasisa anoda kuparadzwa,” (This world is full of hyenas in sheep skins to mislead victims)
MDC leadership must be careful here and stop pretending that Zanu PF functionaries are friends. Zanu PF was a venomous snake yesterday and shall remain so today and tomorrow. If a python changes colour to suit the environment it is operating in, does it cease to be a snake? Does it ever abandon its poisonous killing missions? This is a fact and the better if this sinks into the minds and hearts of MDC leaders. Now the python is biting from within, at very close ranges and well camouflaged.
Let us not pretend that we are safe when we are not.
Can anyone help us to try and make sense of the events surrounding the chronic road accidents involving MDC leaders?
On the date of the Prime Minister, Morgan Tsvangirai’s inauguration, guess what happened?
A heavy truck made a spectacular U-turn in-front of the speeding car of our Vice President Thokozani Khupe, causing a bad accident in the process. Fortunately Khupe was not in the car, but one of her relatives died. Khupe’s mother who was also in the vehicle was seriously injured and is fighting for her life in a Pretoria hospital in South Africa.
Nothing was said publicly about it by the national leadership. The incident never received prominence in the media. I am sure some people are mistaking the noble principle of compromising as surrendering. These ministerial luxuries should not hoodwink MDC leaders into exposing their necks too much to the razor-sharp political guillotine of the junta. Each time the guillotine blade falls down it takes or misses lives of our national leaders. This is it!
As some of us who are autonomous minded were still grappling with Khupe’s accident, another traffic tragedy reached home. Tsvangirai was involved in an accident which claimed the life of his wife, Susan Tsvangirai. We hear it was a genuine accident. Mugabe described the accident as the hand of God. Minister of defence Emmerson Mnangangwa, accused the Americans of trying to kill Tsvangirai. Mnangagwa went on to predict that the Americans would come after Tsvangirai again.
It however surfaced last weekend that the ‘blood truck’ in question belongs to Savious, a Zanu PF minister and a renowned Kaguvi building subversive operative.
As if this is not enough evidence, two MDC ministers, Sipepa Nkomo and Gordon Ndlovu narrowly escaped death in Harare this week as they were on their way to the airport.
The two ministers had just attended the interment of the late former army chief Vitalis Zvinavashe at the Heroes’ Acre.
A speeding truck from ‘Kaguvi building’ smashed into their stationary Merdeces Benz at a robot. Doesn’t this tell us something? Are these still coincidences? There must be something rotten about the security system of MDC leaders.
Who does not know Zanu PF’s trend when it comes to eliminating those they regard as obstacles to their political projects? Who is naïve to the fact that Zanu PF is smart in eliminating those working at close range with them as compared to far ranged opponents? Are we now saying these perennial killers are now our lovely brothers and not snakes anymore? Isn’t a fact that graves at the heroes’ acre of Zimbabwe are filled with corpses of individuals who died in mysterious road accidents which were planned in Kaguvi building and CMED workshops?
What happened to Border Gezi? What happened to Moven Mahachi? What happened to Josiah Magamba Tongogara? What happened to Zororai Duri? What of the parcel letter which killed Herbert Chitepo as he was about to drive out? Can anyone shed light to us about the black dog which Sydney Malunga saw before dying in the car accident? What happened to Amai Susan Tsvangirai? A-ah vakomana ngatingwarireyi apa. Tapera! Tisazoyeuka bako tanaiwa.
These car accidents involving MDC leaders are just too convenient to be coincidental. These are facts. The truth of the matter is that the junta will again come after Prime Minister Morgan Tsvangirai and kill him dead. This is hard to believe and too blunt a statement to make! I risk being dismissed as a prophet of doom. Isn’t it? Should one avoid the doom warning even if a catastrophic doom is pending?
This, they will do, if nothing is done. Something should have been done by yesterday. The security arrangements for our leader must be fast-tracked. We don’t need blood in the streets, roads and highways of Zimbabwe.
This junta will come after Thokozani Khupe. If nothing is done, we shall be burying her soon. Of course this is the truth! Yes I am an alarmist! But I am alarming the nation to reality. I am certain that these statements will never be interpreted to mean that I wish Khupe death. It’s an expression of genuine concern.
Our excellent young minister, Nelson Chamisa is also a candidate of death. Imagine! Yes, let no-one doubts this? Does anyone think that the junta is happy to see the youthful Chamisa being a minister on an MDC ticket? I hope no-one will read this to mean that I wish Chamisa death.
The security of MDC leaders must be outsourced. There is nothing improper about this. Zimbabwe soldiers gave Laurent Kabila security immediately after usurps power from Mobutu. Robert Mugabe went into office from the bush with his body-guards. Nelson Mandela went into office in 1994 with his MK body-guards?
Tsvangirai’s former jailers, tormentors can’t be his security providers today. Never!
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REV HOVE WRITES URGENT FRANK OPEN LETTER TO PRES M R TSVANGIRAI!!!
URGENT OPEN LETTER TO PRESIDENT MORGAN TSVANGIRAI!!!
ATTENTION: MR NELSON CHAMISA, MINISTER FOR INFORMATION!!
My brother Nelson Chamisa, please kindly forward this letter and my greetings and felicitations to the true President of the Republic of Zimbabwe, Mr Morgan Richard Tsvangirai!
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I write you, Your Excellency, this letter in a grave moment of grief as we mourn our dear departed mother, Amai Susan Tsvangirai. We have held various Services here in Johannesburg and many of these Memorial Services have been covered by various Media houses.
On the same day that you had that evil, fatal accident, I had been invited by the SABC a few days before to be on their SABCINTERNATIONAL Programme "African Views" and the subject of discussion was "Is Forgiveness possible in Zimbabwe???" The Programme was going to be aired "live" on the same day that the attempt on your life was executed!
I was going to say on that Programme that for forgiveness to work, there must be a realization by the wrongful party that there are wrongs that they have done in the first place.
I was also going to say that the wrongful party was expected to offer their sincere request for forgiveness to make the wronged party feel and receive the air of contrition so as to be make an informed choice whether to give that forgiveness or not.
I had consulted as widely as I could so that my contributions would not be out of step with the general feelings of the ordinary Zimbabweans. Mr Nelson Chamisa is personally in my mailing lists and he can testify to that regular wide consultation on my part.
BUT ALAS!!!...... while I was waiting for the vehicle from the SABC to arrive somewhere in Johannesburg to pick me up, I received a call that our dear President, who for reasons best known by SADC, is now the Prime Minister, had just been involved in a car accident and the True First Lady had lost her life on the spot and the President was fighting for his life in a Harare hospital.
Then I said to myself….. "What now?" I immediately thought of the Gallant General Josiah Magama Tongogara, Cde Sidney Malunga, Cde Witness Rukarwa, Cde Chris Ushewokunze, Cde Border Gezi, Mr Peter Pamire, Cde Zororo Duri, Cde William Ndangana, Cde Moven Mahachi to mention but a few. The rest can be got at my "IS ROBERT MUGABE THE MASTER-ASSASSIN?" (http://dearmrrobertmugabe.blogspot.com/2006/11/is-robert-mugabe-master-assassin.html )
I also humbly invite you, Your Excellency, to read my "APPEAL TO ALL WRITERS AND JOURNALISTS!" (http://radicalzim.blogspot.com/2007/08/appeal-to-all-journalists-and-writers.html )
As I walked into the Studios for my make-up since I was a Panellist, I wondered what line to take?
I convinced myself what line Cde Josiah Tongogara would have wanted me to take. The line Robert Mugabe's own "drowned brother" Albert Mugabe would have wanted me to take. The line the surviving victim, Cde Patrick Kombayi would have wanted me to take. The line Robert Mugabe's missing Secretary Rashiwe Guzha would have wanted me to take. The line the "poisoned" Cde Maurice Nyagumbo would have wanted me to take! The line Dr Joshua Nkomo's widow our dear Mama MaFuyane (also poisoned) would have wanted me to take! The line the similarly poisoned General Lookout Masuku would have wanted me to take!
What I said and the line I took can be got from the Archives of the SABC!
At that time I didn't know the truck belonged to the murderous Saviours Kasukuwere. Neither did I know then that Kasukuwere had rushed to you, our dear President with a syringe in his hand….. most probably to administer the much-needed First Aid assistance which you desperately required as you lay helplessly on the rough ground! Neither did I know then that the driver that was driving that assassin truck was being driven by a "new" driver and not the "regular" one.
I also had not known then about the true reason why you had to absent yourself from that stupid Birthday bash of our most evil Oppressor which had been held a couple of days before this tragic, dark day!
With hindsight, I'm very satisfied that the line I took was correct one! Robert Mugabe is indeed the Master-Assassin! Well if he wasn't in your case, at least I'm convinced the leopards he reared are grown up and can do the job now without his trillion-dollar signature!
NOW TO MY APPEAL TO YOU, YOUR EXCELLENCY, SIR!!!
Because of something that has happened to me these past few days, I have decided to share some thoughts with you, Your Excellency!
What happened to me of late is.....my loved one now physically leaves me to answer her phone when it rings. She never used to do that in all our 8 years together. She now deletes all calls from the Call Register and deletes all sms's from her cellphone before she returns to me.
She is in normally in Zimbabwe but she had visited me this past week-end and I had last seen her in June, 2008. I admit I've made her suffer by my "stupid activism" which is making her and the children go hungry.
In December, 2008, she celebrated Christmas cleaning up the mess of broken glass etc after the petrol bomb which was thrown into the house they live….. (I say "they" because I live a thousand kilometers away in Gauteng, South Africa myself!)
Refer: (http://zimfinalpush7.blogspot.com/2008/12/arsonists-attempt-to-kill-my-family-in.html )
I'm not complaining about anything here! I'm only highlighting the reason why she could have been tempted to agree to carry another man's baby in her womb in my absence!
Perhaps I should not blame her! I cannot go back to Zimbabwe unless clear guarantees are given for the security of not only myself but of thousands of activists who have bravely stood against the evil, hyper-demonic Regime of Robert Mugabe.
Your Excellency the situation in Zimbabwe can never be normalized without all of your foot-soldiers back home safely!
The very people who you expect to rescue Zimbabwe read our blogs and even ask for our opinions! FOOD FOR THOUGHT!!! Have you forgotten that we were doing demos at nearly every Embassy in Pretoria..... and were recently even fired upon by the SAPS at the Union Buildings??(http://zimfinalpush7.blogspot.com/2009/01/pictures-of-rev-mufaro-hoves-rubber.html)
Please "Google -Search" REVOLUTIONARY YOUTH MOVEMENT OF ZIMBABWE and see what you will get!
So you said at a well-attended rally in Gweru that Robert Mugabe is not the evil person that we thought he was!(Oh my good Lord!!!) I think I'd better just drink poison myself!
Incidentally I'm a South African Citizen by Birth not like Mutumwa Mawere who rushed to arrange his Citizenship with the then Minister of Home Affairs to escape his legitimate prosecution for externalizing the resources of Zimbabwe!..... and to be first in line to benefit from the Black Empowerment Exercise (BEE) which is being implemented here in South Africa. (This is a subject on its own for which I'm preparing a full submission!)
The significance of my always mentioning my dual Citizenship is that I was "completely stupid and thoroughly misplaced" in continuing to involve myself in treacherous Zim politics yet arrangements are being made to "normalize" the situation back home…… (for which I have lost a lot…… including the woman I loved…) yet I cannot go there myself to join in the Appeal for that normalization!
I should have stayed in South Africa quietly and forgotten all about the slimy, slippery Zim Politics!
Your Excellency, its not only me who is crying!
Our women are being "slept" each night at the very Central Methodist Church in Johannesburg and many, not being raped, but just for R10 to get a plate of sadza and stew!
Our women are raped as they cross the river Limpopo by those notorious "Maguma-gumas."
Our women are being raped at Marabastad Home Affairs night after night as they await a turn to go into the Offices to apply for the "asylum papers."
I could go on and on and on and on and on …………………. And on and on!
If I commit suicide, at least I have left my blogs which will include this very Open Letter!
I, however, may not commit suicide because I know there is a God in Heaven who will not receive me if I did something like that ……… I wonder what to do!
I'm sure this Open Letter to you, Your Excellency, will be circulated and debated upon on my websites and numerous others and I humbly ask you to follow all the debates as you rest and recuperate in this strange land of Thabo Mvuyelwa Mbeki and others! Men kiss other men in public here but that's another subject which I will write about when I finally return to Zim! (My wife told me that day will never come for reasons which are now clear to me!)
God bless you, Your Excellency, as you swim in these precipitous, crocodile-infested Zim waters!
I pray that I will carry the Zim flag one day in the streets of Harare!
I remain in pain,
Rev Mufaro Stig Hove.
Cell: 0791463039 RSA.
PLEASE ALSO CHECK "DEBATE FROM REV HOVE'S MENTION OF EXTERNALISATION!!!"
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